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The Win That Wasn't (Or At Least, Not Quite Yet)
Posted by:
Micah Hart on
January 11, 2008 at
5:15PM EST

Hold that celebration, AJ.
You know, you hang around long enough, eventually you'll have a day where you
see something you've never seen before.
That would be today, Hawks fans.
The NBA has ruled that because of a score-keeping error,
the Hawks and Heat will have to replay the final 51.9 seconds from their
Dec. 19 (former) 117-111 win over Miami.
Yup - you read that right. On March 8, before the scheduled 48-minute affair
between the division rivals, the two teams will first re-write the final scene
from the previous game.
The Heat protested the game after Shaquille O'Neal was incorrectly
disqualified after picking up his fifth foul with 51.9 seconds left and the
Hawks leading 114-111. Shaq was accidentally attributed with an earlier foul
that instead belonged to Udonis Haslem, and because of the error the NBA decided
to do something they haven't done since 1982 - require a do-over.
This, needless to say, has the office buzzing.
First of all, to set the scene, Shaq fouled Al Horford with 51.9 left on the
clock. Horford made the pair, making the score 114-111. So, when they start the
replay, it will be 114-111 Hawks lead, and Miami will have ball possession. Shaq
will remain in the game (if the Heat so choose, and if he is healthy) with the
five fouls, and I guess we'll see what happens.
I am quite certain this is going to get a ton of play in the coming
weeks, so I invite everyone to share their opinion in the comments.
In the meantime, Hawks-Wizards tonight at Philips. Here is the "Breaking
Down The Wizards" segment I recorded today with Coach Drew, check
it out.
Sorry, I'd have more, but my head is spinning.
See you tonight!
Update: Hawks owner Michael Gearon spoke with reporters at halftime of
the Wizards game, and seemed mostly at peace with the league's decision. Here's
a little of what he had to say:
"We've dealt with a lot of adversity the last few years, so this is nothing
new to us," said Gearon. "We are used to being underdogs, and I think a lot of
times it brings guys closer together and makes them work harder. I don't think
there was any malicious intent on the scorer's part; it was an honest mistake
and usually these kinds of things work themselves out during the course of a
game. There is nothing we can do about it now, but I think we've shown in the
past few years an ability to stay patient and usually things work out."
Second Update: There have been a lot of questions about whether or not
tickets to the Dec. 19 game will be valid for the redo on March 8, either for
the last 51.9 seconds by itself or if it would get them into the regularly
scheduled game that night against Miami. The official word is that the redo will
be played directly before the main game that night, and only people with tickets
valid for the March 8th game will be allowed in the building. Bottom line? If
you want to see both finishes,
buy a ticket for the regular game.
(51) Comments
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Posted by: Zanarkand on January 11, 2008 5:52PM EST
This will be crazy...I was there that night, and the crowd was already insane since the game was so close! Let's finish off the Heat, but not before we handle the Wizards, whose fans apparently think they have this game in the bag. Just look where that kind of pride got the Mavs, Suns, and (soon) the Heat ^_^
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Posted by: J-mill on January 11, 2008 6:31PM EST
HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU SUPPOSE TO HAVE A STUPID DO-OVER!!! As a Hawks fan, this really gets me pumped because, why in the world would you have do-over when the players would warm-up and just play 52 remaining seconds of a game? What the heck! What if there is a trade between the teams' are those players going to play on their former old teams and then play with their current teams for the real next game? This is a hot MESS!
And if the Heat comeback, thats only like what, 10 WINS!
What if the Hawks now miss the playoffs by half a game! This is crazy!
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Posted by: Steve on January 11, 2008 6:56PM EST
Are we still 16-16? What does it change if the Heat win the 52 seconds, or is it already changed? .............................................
DAMN........ just another travesty in a long line of travestys for a 25 year Hawks fan.
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Posted by: T on January 11, 2008 7:20PM EST
Those who had tickets to the origional game will be allowed to attend the ending for free right?
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Posted by: JAMES COTTON on January 11, 2008 8:56PM EST
ARE YOU CRAZY 51.9 SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME 1 OF ALL IS THIS GAME FREEE OR IS NOBODY GOING TO BE ALLOWD IN THE ARENA SO WHAT EVER THEY ARE CRAZY NO DON'T DO IT NO
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Posted by: T-rag on January 11, 2008 11:29PM EST
This is ridiculous. I have lost respect for the NBA. There have been games that were FIXED by crooked refs that didn't have to be replayed. This was an honest mistake. The NBA plays favorites with high profile teams.
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Posted by: Janelle on January 12, 2008 3:34PM EST
I am in complete agreement with T-Rag. The Hawks should not graciously acquiesce to a “do-over”. In the “real-adult-world”, mistakes are made, but unlike kindergarten we roll with these punches and continue on with life. If the Heat would like a “do-over”, they should simply try to win the next game against the Hawks. There have been games wherein players deliberately hurt other players, and no exceptions were made. There have been games that were so poorly officiated (like when the ref ran too slowly and tripped Joe Johnson!!!!) that it changed the final outcome, still no “do-over”. The NBA should just instill instant replay rules & technology and have done with it.
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Posted by: Deuce on January 12, 2008 5:11PM EST
I am a WIzards fan .. and to Zanarkand .. we OBVIOUSLY BEAT YOU .. heh .. anyway .. yes i agree that it is unfair to re-play the game .. but hey .. thats life .. what can you do about it ? and to T-Rag .. with the Heat being 8-28 .. that hardly qualifies as being a high profile team .. if anything they are a losing team .. and plus .. ATL is in sole posession of 8th place right now in the east .. it really wont make much a difference if you play Miami who are on their way to the lottery for the first time in a couple years .. and you guys are winning 114-111 anyway and likely will win the game anyway .. if anything .. the wizards should have gotten a re-do 2 years ago in the series against the Heat when they called a phantom foul on the Wizards in OT .. Shaq got to the line and made 2 free throws and the Heat won the game .. so cry me a river .. and .. WE BEAT YOU !! HAHAHA .. yes im immature =D
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Posted by: Byron on January 12, 2008 10:32PM EST
It's not like the Heat goin to the playoffs
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Posted by: T on January 13, 2008 2:10AM EST
Byron thats horrible logic but what makes you so convinced that the Hawks are going to the playoffs?
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Posted by: Bullet on January 13, 2008 5:31AM EST
If the Hawks win both games of the double header, does that count as a 2 game win streak?
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Posted by: halimo on January 13, 2008 3:15PM EST
oh well there gonna win again anyway just wacth by the talent of josh chilldress and josh smith
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 13, 2008 7:28PM EST
If the Heat would have won, would the NBA still had this redo, I don't think so.
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Posted by: miller troutman on January 14, 2008 12:41AM EST
the heat game was one of the best experiences of my life. i rarely get to go to games living in valdosta, but i happened to get a hold of a $120 ticket right behind the bench, and now that win means nothing, david stern makes me sick. if it was the other way around im sure the hawks wouldn't get another chance.
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 14, 2008 6:33PM EST
that is retarded just give them i win its not like shaquille o neal is gonna make a diffrence in the game
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Posted by: JJ on January 14, 2008 7:09PM EST
T WE ARE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS THIS SEASON WITH THIS YOUNG SCUAD BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A LINE UP CHANGE G TYRON LUE G JOE F MARVIN F SMITH C LORENZEN WE NEED TO VETERENS IN THE LINE UP
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 14, 2008 7:57PM EST
Pistons fan here.
I don't see how people are complaining about this decision to replay the final minute of the game. This is about the Hawks winning in an illegal way. This is about an official scorer and the whole Hawks organization being negligent and not notifing the mistake, not about a heat-of-the-moment judgment call made by a ref. Shaq got ejected even if he had just 5 fouls, not 6. Do you think is it fair? No it isn't.
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Posted by: DAWANTEZ on January 14, 2008 10:04PM EST
I THINK ITS NOT FAIR BECAUSE THE HAWKS TRIED OR PLAYED THERE BEST OUTTHERE AND YOUR TELLING ME THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN NO IT DONT WORK LIKE THAT. I REALLY DONT CARE BECAUSE I KNOW THE HAWKS ARE GOING TO WIN. I WATCH ALL OF THERE GAMES,AND DO YOU SEE THERE TALENT TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. THE HAWKS ARE GOING TO FLY PAST THE HEATS IN BOOTH GAMES LIKE THEY NEVER NEW THEY WERE THERE. 1#FAN.
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 15, 2008 5:43AM EST
all of u get a life
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Posted by: HawksFan on January 15, 2008 1:39PM EST
FIRE WOODSON!!!
START LAW!!!
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Posted by: dawantez on January 15, 2008 5:42PM EST
lets go hawks!lets bet the heats again!lets make the playoffs hawks!oh!hi Mr,wilkins,AND jerome,and steve,andthe rest off the broadcasters.thehawks are going too win,and there going to make the playoffs.So dont worry.once again1#fan Iwatch the hawks games every time they play.oh! and hi bob. lets just hope the hawks win there games,and make the playoffs.And so stop worring about the heats game ,and just worry about the hawks.lets go hawks!oh and when the hawks make the playoffs. no team is going to want to play them. special not at home.wants again lets go hawks!1#fan trust me iI AM 14YEARSOLD FRON ATLANTA GEORGIA.
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 15, 2008 8:09PM EST
no one would want 2 play them at home cause they cheat
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Posted by: J on January 15, 2008 9:24PM EST
The hawks players had nothing to do with this mistake and i dont believe that this problem caused by a scorer should take away anything from a hawks team that has made great strides this year. like 3 years ago we were 13-69...now suddenly were definitely in the hunt for the playoffs and people are blaming our players?! they just work their butts off to be better and contend in the east.
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Posted by: G Money on January 15, 2008 11:16PM EST
The hawks won the game fair and square, that is just stupid what the league is doing, the heat suck this year anyway!!
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Posted by: G Money on January 15, 2008 11:18PM EST
The hawks need to start Acie and Marvin needs more minutes, he's a genuine all star baby!!
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Posted by: N Thiem on January 16, 2008 10:53AM EST
If they want a "do over" them make it a fiar "do over". Since the final 51 secs were at the end of OT and the players were tired the Hawks had the advantage of a younger, deeper bench. Why give Miami the advantage of starting the "do over" with fresh legs. WHy not complete the game at the END of the regular game which would be a more fair re-creation of the game's end.
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Posted by: Kalin Miyasaki on January 16, 2008 12:51PM EST
It wont even matter we will just beat them by more than 6
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 24, 2008 1:58AM EST
lol i like it straight 2 the point... nice job bobb
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 27, 2008 11:52AM EST
This is so crazy, all the bad calls that are shown on instant replay and those games aren't do overs. NBA is fxed and we all know it.
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Posted by: Anonymous on January 28, 2008 1:28PM EST
FIRE MIKE WOODSON!!!!!!!!!!START ACIE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: lewis on January 31, 2008 3:54PM EST
I've seen players assesed fouls the did not commit,if it was a sixth foul should they replay those games?
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Posted by: Mackenzie on February 6, 2008 5:31PM EST
So, the Hawks are replaying these 51.9 seconds due to the fact that the "professional" score keeper made a mistake and fouled Shaq out a little early. But what happens now if Shaq is traded to Phoenix?? Do we still have to replay the game?
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Posted by: Sam Love on February 6, 2008 8:30PM EST
I have a feeling that we play 51.9 Sec but whoever the heat got (i dont remember how to spell there names) cant play....
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Posted by: Phil Harris on February 9, 2008 1:47PM EST
What will happen to the 51.9 replay now that Shaq has been traded to the Phoenix Suns????
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Posted by: jwise on February 9, 2008 4:51PM EST
Ya without shaq it would be pointless almost unless he goes back 2 miami 4 51.9sec
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Posted by: A-bag on February 10, 2008 3:00PM EST
J-mill on Jan. 11 brought up what if a trade occurs.....Hello, Shaq, the center of all the controversy, was traded. Will the starting center for the 59 seconds be 'awarded' 5 fouls???????
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Posted by: Dwight on February 10, 2008 4:10PM EST
How would the game go on because shaq has been traded and this do-over is because of shaq
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Posted by: eric on February 12, 2008 10:43PM EST
how are they going to do this since shaq is in phx?
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Posted by: j on February 16, 2008 11:26PM EST
So now that the hawks got bibby and lost t-lue, aj, lorenzen and shelden, are we going to be without all of them? who can play and why even do this if the reason were redoing it; SHAQ...isnt going to be there? Did the nba even consider trades when they decided on this? What a load of crap...what, instead of 9-42 the heat could be 10-42? oh man, now they might get 20 wins, look out..heat suck and if they win the redo because we dont have aj,lue,shelden, or lorenzen and bibby cant play, it will send some shockwaves through the nba. i cant believe that they would do this. why not just fine the scorer and send shaq a sorry your old and suck now card? Shaq doesnt even care about what miami's record is now.
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Posted by: keg1 on February 18, 2008 6:05PM EST
I THINK THIS IS GREAT! IT DONT MATTER IF THERE WERE TRADES DONE AND ONLY 52 SECONDS REMAINING......A MISTAKE IS A MISTAKE AND WE GOTS TO GO BACK AND FINISH THE GAME, HAWKS STILL GONNA WIN....ANYWAYS GO SPURS GO!!!!!! "DEFENDING CHAMPS"
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Posted by: Bob on February 18, 2008 7:48PM EST
The NBA should not play this over. Shaq was the whole reason thins happend and now he is traded. Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks better not be able to play in this. I don't think Shaq would have even played in the last 51.9 seconds. If the Heat lost this, it really doesn't matter for them. Heck, they want to lose to get a better chance of the lottery. The Hawks acually need every win they can get. Can anybody count in Phillips Arena? On the jumbo-tron, I think somebody should have relised something was wrong.
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Posted by: Cory on February 19, 2008 6:18PM EST
Since Shaq got traded, he will have to play the last minute with the Heat again and just leave after that, right?
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Posted by: J on February 21, 2008 7:18PM EST
is it just me or do the hawks realy need to sign jeremy richadson to a real deal..he gives us another shooter off the bench..SIGN RICHARDSON!
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Posted by: The Third on February 23, 2008 12:03PM EST
All right...Shaq is gone. Will Marion/Banks be allowed to play? Heck, will Bibby be allowed to play? The problem surrounded a bad call dealing with the same person who's in Phoenix now. So what the hell?
As for Jeremy Richardson...I'm liking this kid. Enough with the 10 day contracts, get this kid signed. Like J said, he's a threat off the bench. I'm pretty sure we can handle the Heat in 51 seconds...isn't it our ball first?
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Posted by: fortnightwatch on February 26, 2008 2:52AM EST
I dont know if anybody here has noted that this is not the first time a hawks scorekeeper has incorrectly altered the game for the home team - in a game against the raptors last season they realized afterwards that one basket by tj ford was never counted for points...
not saying it was definitely intentional but maybe since it was a repeat offense the league decided to do something about it...
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Posted by: J on February 26, 2008 6:34PM EST
If it was a repeat offense why not just ban the scorer from the league or if they believed it was on purpose the first time ban the scorer then? I just dont think that a mistake made by the staff at philips arena should cost the hawks team..thats all im saying
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Posted by: dawantez on February 27, 2008 6:44PM EST
i know the hawks are going to win the game against the heats. im only writing this letter to tell mike woodson to sign jeremy richarson. and good job hawks.please sign jeremy richarson.
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Posted by: dawantez on February 27, 2008 6:46PM EST
where do you go to write to hawks on hawks live.
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Posted by: PistolPete44ATL on March 1, 2008 1:40AM EST
HIRE JEREMY RICHARDSON!!!! AND I'm quite sure the Hawks will have this win...the Heat are awful and just happened to get the win against the worse Sonics :P
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Posted by: Dee on March 1, 2008 9:51AM EST
Alright Hawks! I'm tired of hearing the excuses about the playoffs situation. I would like to say that we are 8 games below playing .500 basketball. If this team have the desire to play and win, Please do so. Play defense, get the victory, and play winning basketball for a change.
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Posted by: Jmill on March 9, 2008 10:01PM EST
We win HAHA get over it miami what are you now 11-50 or some crap...get a life and dont waste our time we have playoffs to go to
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