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Draft Scenarios: What Would You Do? Issue One
Posted by:
Micah Hart on
May 25, 2007 at
10:05AM EST
Man - Gotta give it up to you, Hawks fans. The comments section on the blog
is filled with your thoughts and suggestions on what the team should do come
June 28, and (what a surprise), almost every opinion is different.
It just goes to show you how many possibilities there are for what we can do.
It's almost hard to keep track!
So, what I thought I'd do is try to segment out some of the different options
and see what everyone thinks we should do in each case.
WARNING!
None of what I say here should be taken as evidence as to what the Hawks will
actually do. Yes, I work for the franchise, but BK keeps everything close to the
vest, and I promise, as much as I'd like to, I have no inside information. Ok,
now that that's out there, let's get into it.
Today's scenario:
Hawks choose to trade one
and/or both of their first-rounders to acquire NBA veterans.
What veterans out there in the league would you like to see in a Hawks uniform?
Please, try to remember there have to be two sides to every trade - i.e., the
Timberwolves would never deal Kevin Garnett for the Hawks #3 pick. That just
ain't gonna happen.
So, get to it Hawks fans - who is out there for us? Share your thoughts in
the comments.
(162) Comments
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Posted by: Aaron P. on May 25, 2007 11:18AM EST
We need to pick Aice Law #3, man that guy is awesome. He could really help us in the guard spot.
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Posted by: Jon on May 25, 2007 11:40AM EST
If the Hawks decide to trade a pick (or both), they need to aim big. Offer the Nets Marvin Williams, Speedy Claxton, Lue and the #3 pick for Jason Kidd. Nets get a young PF to pair with Krstic, a PG to split time with Marcus Williams (and salary to make the trade possible), and a top 3 pick. Hawks finally get a veteran PG, and can pick A. Law at #11 to groom behind him.
If not Kidd, then offer Claxton, Shelden Williams, and the #3 pick to the Kings for Bibby and the #10 pick. Could grab a post player like Hawes and a PG like Law (if Conley's gone) at 10 and 11, and add a veteran point guard as well to start.
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Posted by: JonJ on May 25, 2007 11:44AM EST
First it must be realized that there is a good possibility that conley, law, and crittenton will all fall pass the ten spot. This is not like felton, williams, and paul; each one of those prospects played for more than one season and none of them played with anybody as dominant as Oden.
I am itching to suggest trading away claxton with any three pick deal in order alleviate cap space, but having a rookie point guard is not the most appealing option.
HOwever trading a package for either o'neal, Gasol, Garnett (don't think this will happen), Randolph (don't need bad character around young kids for instance josh smith and randolph hanging out looks like a nightmare waiting to happen), stoudamire (even though the rumors are out there i see this as being near impossible)
Looking at the two most feasible options Oneal and Gasol trade scenarios for those two might play out like this.
NOw because of the size of oneal's contract making a trade means giving up to much.
The best trade and the one i support and back is Gasol. I truly believe he is viewed underrated by people outside of MEmphis and especially the Eastern Conference. This did not occur to me until i was talking to my friend and he began salivating at the prospect of having Gasol on the team.
Look at some highlights and see for your self.
Atlanta: #3 and/ or not #11 with speedy claxton, josh childress, and/ or not lorenz or stoudamire
for gasol and their 4th pick. ( this trade leaves us under the salary cap by about 2 million)
With that 4th pick trade down. for a second round pick or a shooting guard like francisco garcia and pick the point guard available.
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Posted by: Neil on May 25, 2007 12:15PM EST
Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'neal, Marcus Camby, Pau Gasol, Mike Bibby, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd. Any of them would work, but probably the best bet would be to trade for a center and then pick up conley, law or crittenton at #11 because the centers in the draft just aren't that great since Hibbert backed out. Use whatever combination of players and maybe the #3 pick necessary (I dont know everybody's salaries) between: Speedy, Salim, Sheldon, Lorenzen, Lue, Ivey, Childress, Anthony Johnson. Or the other scenario would be to trade the #3 pick to Portland who seem to be willing to do whatever needs to be done to get conley. They have Randolph, Jarrett Jack, Aldridge, Lafrentz, and Magloire (who I recall last summer we were trying to get). I'd say the best scenario of that would be to get Aldridge and Magloire and they get #3 pick and whatever combination of the above listed Hawks is needed to get the trade done. And then we could still get Acie Law at #11.
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Posted by: DMichael Buford on May 25, 2007 1:51PM EST
I Say that we draft Yi Jianlian for the 3rd pick and draft Acie Law for the 11th pick and then sign Sun Ming Ming in the offseason.
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Posted by: William Byrd on May 25, 2007 1:55PM EST
Billy Knight needs to draft Al Hortford at number #3 pick,and trade Marvin Williams, Speedy Claxton, plus their #11 pick for Philadelphia's PG Andre Miller and Philly's #10 pick.
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Posted by: gregory on May 25, 2007 2:20PM EST
well i say we keep the third pick so that we can draft either erek suhr/ roderick wilmont from indiana or humphrey from florida (kid can shoot the rock like hes throwin a sea shell into the ocean) these three ballas if u will would solidify our 3 point shooting. THEN I say we (the atlanta hawks) trade our 11th pick with r ivey or anthoney johnson but not joe johnson for kidd and carter. nj is looking to rid themselves of the aging veteran and his friend carter. also maybe miami would be wiling to deal wade and shaquille b/c they need draft picks.
OUR 11th pick gives us a lot of leverage and i really would love to see us add a guy like nash, nowitzki or kobe. i think after the way things went down in dallas they probably believe nowitzki will never be a franchise player like stephen jackson on gs (who we never should have traded) so we could trade lorenzen and i hate to say it but esteban batista and our #11 for nowitzki and avery johnson. avery and woodson could work together to help this team and maybe austin croshere could take over the head coaching vacancy in dallas.
-greg aka pimp GO HAWKS! WE WILL WIN A CAMPIONSHIP SOON!
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Posted by: anonymous on May 25, 2007 2:27PM EST
gregory have you lost your mind!!!! You really think anybody in their right mind would trade Jason Kidd and Vince Carter the 11th pick and ROYAL IVEY OR ANTHONY JONHNSON!!!!!!!
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Posted by: Charles on May 25, 2007 2:40PM EST
Now's not the time to jump at veterans. This team is not there yet. The young talent is getting better and better and in the next couple of years we will be ready for that kind of impact move. Right now, the worst thing we could do is panic and trade away picks for aging veterans. Doing that just reminds me of 2002- when we traded the number 3 pick (Pau Gasol) for Shariff. Adding veterans is not the answer. Maybe if we finished just outside the playoffs it would be one thing, however this team's core nucleus needs to develop longer together. The one element we are missing is low post scoring. Last year we got the defensive presence we needed and now we need to get an offensive force. Yi JianLian is the answer!!!! Brandon Wright is too passive and Horford's post game never looked that impressive to me at Florida.
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Posted by: Kay-Jay on May 25, 2007 4:23PM EST
I think the Hawks should draft a point guard like Conley. They should trade away speedy and the 11 pick and maybe marvin williams and get a good center somebody young like lamarcus form the blazers cause if they do draft oden why have two first round centers?
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Posted by: Blu Phillips on May 25, 2007 4:58PM EST
Pick Mike Conley Jr. at #3 and send him ,Ty Lue and the #11 pick to Portland for Jarrett Jack and LeMarcus Aldridge. Portland will want some cap relief and they will be looking for another scorer to go with their young necules.
The hawks need a floor general and someone who can defend the post and be a threat on the block. BK if you're reading, I just made your job easy.
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Posted by: Anthony on May 25, 2007 5:03PM EST
It's simple really (what to do this draft): Pick #3: Draft Conley Pick#11: Draft Yi,another Center, or trade it with a couple of young guys (include that bum claxton please!!!) for a veteran who can play center.
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Posted by: Kentarus on May 25, 2007 5:13PM EST
These are the scenarios for me for the hawks any other is just stupid to me it's just my opinion I say we do this 3rd pick-Yi Jianlian 11th pick- A.C. Law or 3rd pick- Mike connely 11th pick- Spencer Hawes
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Posted by: Obsa on May 25, 2007 5:16PM EST
I say if we are trading pick, then trade and get D howard, that way we would have a all star center, and take away from Orlando, the trade the 3rd and AJ and speedy for Agent Zero. PG agent zero, royal ivey SG joe johnson childress SF smith, childres PF marvin, shelden C Howard, Zaza this would be a great team, and if healthy would take the east for a long time, because they are so young.
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Posted by: Obsa on May 25, 2007 5:25PM EST
yi is 230lbs, he is not stopping Howard or thomas, or shaq, and it takes a long time for them to flourish, look at yao, our enviroment is not stable enough for a yao, we want some1 to come in and be amazing.
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Posted by: jwk on May 25, 2007 5:46PM EST
please please please trade anything except josh smith or joe johnson to portland for the #1 overall pick. trade the #3 and#11 pick plus anybody else to get oden bc next year we dont have a first round pick bc it is going to phoenix and we wont be able to get hibbert trade joe if we have to!!!!!!!!!!!!! if we cant get that done lets go after gilbert he would be a great addition to the hawks. starting line up with arenas: pg: arenas sg: johnson sm: childress pf: smith c: pachulia please BK do what ever it takes to get one of these two players the will be an excellent addition to the hawks. i can smell a championship just around the corner its coming and i cant wait
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Posted by: Raúl Álzaga on May 25, 2007 6:07PM EST
If the Hawks keep their picks, I'd chose Brandan Wrigh at #3 and Acie Law at #11. Wright has the best upside of any player in the draft other than Greg Oden and Kevin Durant. His freakish wingspan, great hands, outstanding footwork and speed running the court make me think he could end up being an Amare Stoudemire type of player. Can you imagine Josh Smioth and Wright togeher in the paint? They could eventually combine for 20 rebounds and six blocks per game.
I like Law, because he is a proven winner, is a great defender and a clutch shooter. Even though he must keep improving as a ball distributor, having a player like Joe Johnson, who can create a lot of situations for himself and for others, will easen the burden.
Atlanta needs guys who are proven winners and help change their losing ways. Law can help in that regards. The Hawks are also rumored to be interested in Greek point guard Theodoros Papaloukas (6'7"), who led CSKA Moscow to the Euroleague title in 2006 and an Euroleague Final Four finish in 2007. He was the MVP of the Greek team that beat USA at the World Championships in Japan and took home the slver medal. Although a bit slow for NBA standards, this guy is a tough defender, a great shooter and is very fundamentally sound. Even at age 30, he'd be a great addition to a veteran-starved team like Atlanta. Just look at how Spanish forard Jorge Garbajosa helped turned things around for the Toronto Raptors in his rookie year.
If there are any trades to be made, I'd probably pack Marvin Williams, Shelden Williams and Speedy Claxton ($14.2 million combined in cap space) for Pau Gasol ($13.7 million). Gasol is another proven winne (gold medal at World Championships) and the type of fundamentally-sound player the Hawks need.
Another possible trade would be Anthony Johnson $2.86 million) to Golden State for little used Lithuanian PG Sarunas Jasikevicius ($4 million), a clutch shooter and solid passer who was a thee-time Euroleague winner prior to his unsuccesful jump to the NBA, where he has not received the playing time promised by Indiana and the Golden State.
Another underrated PG is Puerto Rican Carlos Arroyo, who has been misused by the Orlando Magic despite providing big profits in merchadising. (Believe it or not his jersey is the most sold in Orlando). He is a poor man's Steve Nash who can create a lot of situations for himself and for others but has always been to teams who already have a PG in place before him. In Atlanta, he'd easily beat out Lue, Claxton or Johnson. I'd offer, Johnson (2.86 million) and Salim Stoudemire ($783,000) for Arroyo ($4 million). If Orlando is not going to give him enough playing time and prefers turnover-prone Jameer Nelson and combo guard Keyon Dooling, they should give him up.
If all things turned up a I'd like, the Hawks would end up with a starting unit of Gasol, Wright, Smith, Johnson and Papaloukas or Arroyo at PG. Then bring Childress, Pachulia, Law, Wright, Lue as the top subs.
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Posted by: Bruce Horeza on May 25, 2007 6:22PM EST
FOR GODS SAKE KNIGHT DO SOMETHING RIGHT. WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT TRADE THE 3 PICK or the 11 PICK... TAKE CONNELLY at 3 and who ever the BEST talent that is left at center at 11... DO NOT TRADE 3... PLEASE DO SOMETHING RIGHT AND TAKE CONNELLY..... THE CITY OF ATLANTA SHOULD DISOWN THE HAWKS IF THEY DON'T PICK CONNELLY... WE HAVE PASSED ON ENOUGH GREAT PG's in the draft.... AND GET RID OF CLAXTON/LUE... JUST PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DRAFT CONNELLY............ THE SPIRIT OWNERSHIP GROUP SHOULD FIRE IF HE DOESNT TAKE HIM.... and all of georgia will cry
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Posted by: Terrance on May 25, 2007 6:29PM EST
Don't waste this pick Atlanta like we did in 2001 by passing on Gasol!!!! We should take Brandon Wright at number #3 and Aice Law at number #11. We'll be big and in the east, a major threat!!!
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Posted by: Randy on May 25, 2007 6:46PM EST
Get Mike Conley Jr at #3 and Roy Hibbert at #11 if at all possible. Man that would be a dream! Don't screw this up Hawks!!!
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Posted by: justin on May 25, 2007 6:52PM EST
yoooo the hawks should pick conley at 3. he is the most well rounded and has the most upside of all the points in the draft . he can handle the offense and play good d he did average 2.2 spg. and then pick hopefully Noah at 11 if hes there if not, trade it and zaza to the knicks for channing fry and a 2nd round pick. that will cover both needs for us. ZAza is not goin to play D but at least frye will at least contend incomers shoots.
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Posted by: Kenny on May 25, 2007 6:54PM EST
I agree with Terrance, Don't need to waste this pick Atlanta like we did in 2001 by passing on Gasol!!!! We should take Brandon Wright at number #3 and Aice Law at number #11. We'll be big and in the east, a major threat!!!
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Posted by: Kenneth on May 25, 2007 6:57PM EST
Raul pretty much summed it all up. If the Hawks keep their picks, I'd chose Brandan Wrigh at #3 and Acie Law at #11. Wright has the best upside of any player in the draft other than Greg Oden and Kevin Durant. His freakish wingspan, great hands, outstanding footwork and speed running the court make me think he could end up being an Amare Stoudemire type of player. Can you imagine Josh Smioth and Wright togeher in the paint? They could eventually combine for 20 rebounds and six blocks per game.
I like Law, because he is a proven winner, is a great defender and a clutch shooter. Even though he must keep improving as a ball distributor, having a player like Joe Johnson, who can create a lot of situations for himself and for others, will easen the burden.
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Posted by: Dejay on May 25, 2007 7:19PM EST
If there isn't a surefire guy to help this team start winning right now, trade down for a veteran who can. Its as simple as that. Haven't we seen enough of BK take the worst option with his lotto picks to know better by now? Don't we have the youngest roster in the league already; why add to that? All they'll get to see are the same two things the current group sees almost every night during the season; more losing and more guys in other uniforms telling them to come play for a 'real team' once their rookie deals run out.
Let's not be gunshy because of the SAR deal a few years ago. That deal feel apart not solely because of SAR (although he wasn't the Type A star but a complimentary piece) but because the surrounding cast of young players were far worse than the ones we have now; you wanna compare the Joshes to Dion Glover or Hanno Mottola to Zaza?
We've been there and done that with this endless rebuilding process; its time to make a playoff push and the time is now.
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Posted by: Wes on May 25, 2007 7:26PM EST
WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER POWER FORWARD!! We have already spent the past 2 years addressing that issue and now have 3 young power forwards. WAKE UP. Draft CONLEY!!! We should have gotten Chris Paul or Deron Williams in 2005, but we didn't so we should have got Brandon Roy in 2006. But we didn't so we HAVE to get Conley in 2007. Law may not even be on the board at #11 and even if he is, Conley is a better point guard, the guy is amazing. Wright may be a good player, but we don't have a place to put him, WE NEED CONLEY!!
I heard Knight say they have a point gaurd already and that Claxton and Lue were it. SORRY guy you are CLUELESS! Claxton is a mediocre player, a poor shooter, he will always be plagued with injuries, DUMP HIM. Another bonehead acquisition by Mr. Knight. Lue is a good #2 player but he isn't a starter. WE NEED A POINT GUARD. If Knight doesn't understand that by now, PLEASE FIRE HIM before he screw us again!!
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Posted by: Kraig on May 25, 2007 9:12PM EST
Okay guys several of you have said we need to draft Mike Conley Jr at #3 and the best available or Yi Jianlian at #11. I disagree. Now the Hibbert is gone we can't get him. Oden and Durant won't be there at #3, so that's not an option. Conley Jr is not that good, he didn't put up great numbers this season. However if he had played another 2 years, he would have been a great pick. There really aren't many proven point guards in this draft, so we need to take Aice Law at #3. He would develop into a good player in 2 or 3 years. However if we have to take Conley at #11 we can because at least we get a point guard, but it would be best to take Aice Law at #3 and a center who can really finish strong and pound it inside at #11, so we could trade Marvin Williams and Josh Childress to the Bucks for the #6 pick and Charlie Villaneuva. If we don't trade the #11 pick we could get Joakim Noah if he were around, or we could draft a 7' footer in Spencer Hawes. So we should draft Aice Law at #3 and try to trade the #11 pick. If we don't trade the 11 pick we should draft Noah or Hawes.
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Posted by: DMichael Buford on May 25, 2007 9:33PM EST
What the roster needs to be...
Centers: Zaza Pachulia, Sheldon Williams, and Sun Ming Ming(7'9" chinese player)
Power Fowards: Yi Jianlian, Marvin Williams, and Solomon Jones
Small Fowards: Josh Smith and Josh Childress
Shooting Guards: Joe Johnson, Salim Stoudamire, and Royal Ivy
Point Guards: Acie Law, Tyrone Lue, and Speedy Claxton
*Each first name is the starter*
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Posted by: navid on May 25, 2007 9:55PM EST
fire knight. fire woodson. hire larry brown or van gundy. pick #3 get yi. pick #11 get conley. easy.
dear spirit ownership,
if this is hard to understand. maybe sell the team to someone that cares.
- atlanta hawks fan.
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Posted by: Brandon Wellborn on May 25, 2007 10:40PM EST
Portland wants Conley Jr. to pair with Oden, so trade them the number 3 pick and maybe Claxton or Lue for Jarrett Jack and LaMarcus Aldridge. That would solve the PG and C dilemma. At number 11 we should pick best player available. Hopefully Spencer Hawes will still be there. FA could solve some depth concerns, and we would have a solid playoff contending team!
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Posted by: thawk on May 25, 2007 11:11PM EST
I think we should pick conley and then package him and claxton to portland for Jack and Aldridge. If not we need to find away to get Paul Gasol, probably be cheaper than any other big man free agent. I also agree with navid, we need to fire Billy Knight, he's the worst G.M. i ever seen.
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Posted by: Obsa on May 25, 2007 11:24PM EST
Ii think we should do the trade, if cap space is right, i wouldnt mind getting a proven center like aldridge and a proven PG like jarrett jack, and still have the 11th, then trade the 11th for next year pick and a 2nd, so we have a 2nd round, and a 1st next year after the suns take ours. whats the news on Arenas is his contract coming up and what about Howard, i would lose both 11th and 3rd for those 2 players.
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Posted by: Phil on May 25, 2007 11:26PM EST
All this talk about trading Salim Stoudamire is just plain ridiculous! He's clearly one of the better scoring guards on this team off the bench given the minutes AND he's a PG. What the Hawks really should do is trade both of their 1st rounders + Claxton, Childress, and/or M. Williams in a effort to move up to the 2nd or 1st pick + recieve a later round pick in return. I'd REALLY try to hold on to M. Williams considering the fact that he's still young and developing.
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Posted by: Tariq Walker on May 26, 2007 12:10AM EST
Acie Law would be an incredible fit for the team... the dude is so super athletic and super clutch... he has the potential to take over a game and give him a year or two and hell be making the whole team better.. just build around him
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Posted by: donta on May 26, 2007 12:52AM EST
Billy knight I hope your reading this.... We need a PG...BAD!!! T.Lue is good but we need somone else. I say take conley jr. with the 3rd pick and whomever best is left at #11.I mean come one almost half the people on here agree that you should draft conley jr. Even the polls say take conley jr. We have passed up on ENOUGH point gaurds in past drafts. lets not make a mistake like last year. Brandon wrights realllllly good but I think we need to nab conley jr. before its too late.
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Posted by: donta on May 26, 2007 1:16AM EST
I totally change my mind. take acie law as the point gaurd
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Posted by: barr arohen on May 26, 2007 3:36AM EST
the hawks are totally gonna dominate next year if they get joakim noah. joakim can shoot from anywhere on the court, i mean he's a baller fo sho. o fo sho. and i know for a fact that he's good wit da chicks. saw him at a night club one time dancin wit 4 or 5. he dribbles like a young AI and boards like an elderly(yet experienced) shaq. if we dont get him with 3 or 11 i will move to wherever he goes dead serious man. it's getting annoying, i already moved when kwame brown went to LA. pissed me off. he did nothing. i was feeling championship. then when marvin came here i was like oh yea. Hotlanta baby. and now we have a shot at joakim. yea!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: Thomas on May 26, 2007 4:42AM EST
If the Hawks have to trade one or both of their picks I hope that they would go after someone relatively young. I think anyone over 30 might be to far into to his career to be successful with the Hawks. I imagine a quick turnaround is not in the cards. However, in two to three years I believe (if all the pieces remain in tact) they will truley be contenders.
Personally, I would love to see Dwight Howard in a Hawks uniform. However, I imagine it would take a mighty offer to pry Howard from the Majic. I sure we would have to package both picks, Marvin or Childress, and maybe next year's first round pick.
A more realistic possiblity is to get Marion from the Suns. However, he is not exactly a low post presence, and he is probably past his prime. We would probably have to give up Marvin. So, I'm not sure that this deal would be worth it.
Bynum would be a nice pickup for the Hawks. We would have to give up the third pick, or the eleventh pick and maybe shelden or childress.
There are numerous possiblities, but I think that the Hawks will eventually decide to hold on to the picks.
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Posted by: STONEMAN on May 26, 2007 5:39AM EST
hard 2 say, I say try 2 trade up one for Durrant if not get Mike Conley at the point because there is 2 MUCH POTENTIAL at that position,you never some team may make you an offer you can't refuse. At the number 11 pick just get the best player available. Anything is better than last year and by the way FIRE BILLY KNIGHT AND WOODSON.
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Posted by: bosy on May 26, 2007 7:28AM EST
try to get CONLEY and BREWER by moving the picks to the right spots, trade some of our great guys like marvin williams and/or josh childress and pick up some defensive minded big man in the process and start building a real defensive team around these players, please!!
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Posted by: bruce on May 26, 2007 9:17AM EST
please dont bring in expensive once high calibre players, that are past their prime! if you bring in veterans, then make it solid role players that have been on winning teams, that can show our young developing players what it takes to be winning each and every day in practice
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Posted by: wes on May 26, 2007 9:46AM EST
take brandon wright at three and then at 11 either take aci law or javaris crittenton
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Posted by: Jonj on May 26, 2007 11:02AM EST
We cannot trade Tyron Lue he enjoys being here and he is like our bobby jackson when he use to play with the kings our nick van exel when he use to play for the mavericks. He is solid energy off the bench and leader in our ball club.
the 3 spot is to high for conley. IF YOU ARE SO SURE THAT CONLEY IS GOING TO BE IT AT NUMBER 3 THEN LOOK AT THE SUCCESSFUL POINTS GUARDS WHO PLAYED ONLY ONE YEAR IN COLLEGE.
And Brandon Wright? YEs he is talented, but how long will it take him to develop. Do you all want to get into the playoffs now or just continue to have a team full of amazing talented players and no leader and more than 37 victories.
If you are gong to take a point guard you take Law. IF conley turns out to be beast then you move on dont gripe about it.
I would Jian lin but we dont have the environment to nurture an international players
in the end i expect Billy Knight to make the best decision. THE BEST DECISION!!! There are a lot of factors that go into his decisions and some of them have to do with the management issues. Don't forget he brought Gasol to Memphis (he was MEmphis's Gm at the time) so he knows what he is doing.
I only disagree with him on one thing and that is speedy claxton. i do think we should trade him.
and we dont need jarret jack maybe alridge and martell webster if we did a trade, but not jack(actually maybe i am not sure haven't seen him much) and 1st round next year.
i still think we should pry gasol from memphis
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Posted by: chris on May 26, 2007 11:35AM EST
ok if yall are stupid enough to draft that retard joakim noah everone of the hawks staff should be fired. trade the 3rd pick and some of our guards and sheldon williams and draft acie law at 11.
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Posted by: A Great GM on May 26, 2007 12:41PM EST
Draft Conley with 3rd pick, we have passed on great guards the last two drafts. Conley is young and has a huge upside, he can help everyone on the team immediately. We slept on Paul and Roy, let's get a point guard now. Pick 11 we should get a center if possible, or a pf. The lottery is deep with forwards and a couple of centers but not point guards, thats why we should get Conley first.
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Posted by: Charles on May 26, 2007 1:05PM EST
Conley will not help this team immediately!!!!!!!!!! He's too undersized and inexperienced. It will be a huge mistake if we picked him at third overall. I'm still convinced that Crittenton has better potential than Conley. He just wasn't on Ohio State with Greg Oden making him look better... Low post scoring is our biggest need, not PG!!!!
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Posted by: gregory on May 26, 2007 1:34PM EST
the only player coming into the draft that i can see coming in right away and contributing is SHAQ DIESEL BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... WHY HAS NO ONE MENTIONED TRADING OUR 3 OR 11 PICK FOR HIM???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
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Posted by: MARCUS on May 26, 2007 1:51PM EST
YI JIANLIAN AT #3 (ATLANTA NEEDS THIS WE CAN'T KEEP AFFORD TO PASS ON PLAYERS LIKE THIS, TALL,QUICK, & A SCORER, VERY VERY DANGEROUS WEAPON!)
ACIE LAW #11 (OR TRADE DOWN FOR A VET, MAYBE GET PG FROM GEORGIA TECH, WHO KNOWS CONLY MAY BE HERE, IF SO TRADE PICK FOR JARRET JACK AND A 2ND ROUND SELECTION ONLOAD SPEEDY!)
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Posted by: Randy on May 26, 2007 2:24PM EST
Get Conley at #3 and a center at #11. Some say get Acie Law at #3, which wouldn't be bad, he doesn't have the huge upside of Conley but he is a guy who can contribute more right away. Drafting anyone but Conley or Law at 3 is dangerous, because there is a very good possibility they won't be around at #11 and it would be a disastor not to get either one. A portland trade for Jack and Aldridge would be cool too.
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Posted by: McFadden4Heisman on May 26, 2007 2:30PM EST
Mike Conley is the best Point guard prospect to come out of College since Chris Paul and Jason Kidd. Atlanta has no point guard and 4 Role playig Centers.
Conleys father was a Track Legend at Arkansas and won the Gold Medal at the Olympics. Conley is a winner and is only 19 (Freshmen)point guard.
When Allen Iverson came out of Georgetown they also said "He's too small and too little?
Draft Conley at #3.
Draft #11 Jokim Noah(Yi JiamLian)
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Posted by: steve on May 26, 2007 2:32PM EST
i really believe that after the way the season ended in phoenix, a good player to draft would be shawn marrion. i think he is like the x factor of sorts. i can see a deal where we trade our 2nd or 3rd round pick and cash considerations for the crafty veteran, marrion. our lineup would look like this
ivey johnson j smith marrion kwame brown
i like this lineup cuz ivey is a balla shot caller. i remember the game where ivey hit a layup ta win against houston. he really proved to be the best pg on the team. this year esteban batista should get alot more playing time. hes hard to guard cuz hes a lefty wonder. if the hawks r smart theyll get larry brown as assistant coach as well.
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Posted by: jwk on May 26, 2007 2:56PM EST
trade the third pick,anthony johnson,sheldon,and claxton to portland get randoph,aidridge,jack and possibly a next year pick. aidridge was a great player this year and jack is a big point gaurd that can create offense randolph would be a great presence down low and with the 11th take law or a big man this could be our lineup : pg: jack, lue, possibly law sg: johnson, stoudamire, childress sf: smith,marvin, childress pf: aldridge, smith ,marvin, possibly noah c: randolph, zaza, wright this line up could take us to the finals with all of this talent and potential
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Posted by: kj on May 26, 2007 3:06PM EST
steve just to let you know marion is aging and ivey is not that great and another fact there is only two rounds in the draft and we dont even have a second round pick it goes to dallas correct me if im wrong but i dont think that we have kwame brown either i agree with jwk we should trade to portland
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Posted by: jwk on May 26, 2007 3:31PM EST
another player to look out for is sun ming ming he is 7ft 9in tall and is similar to yao he is still developing and does not have great stamina since we dont have a second round pick we could possibly trade claxton or aj to a team that is looking for a veteran pg and we could get a mid to late second round pick and take sun ming ming in a few years he has the potential to be a great big man he probably will not be a big presence in his fist year but his second or third he will be a great contibuter bk if you are reading this this guy could be something but if he doesnt pan out aj or claxton would not be that big of a loss
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Posted by: joseph holler(hawks season ticket holder 3 years) on May 26, 2007 3:50PM EST
I think since oden wants conley as his teammate. We should trade #3 pick to them for aldridge
or trade shelden and #3 for randolph and aldridge.
then take acie law at #11.
what about trading our #11 for darko in orlando in a sign n trade and they include their 2nd rd pick so we can grab a good player in 2nd rd like jemario davidson(7 ft center from alabama)
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Posted by: Randy on May 26, 2007 4:18PM EST
Is Aldridge a true center ? If not, forget about him. Play it safe, draft Conley #3 and pick a center at #11. Please Knight, lets not have another Sheldon Williams debacle of 2006. Read my lips "draft a point guard with #3 pick".
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Posted by: wes on May 26, 2007 4:49PM EST
ok we need a center and a point guard. we no we cant get greg oden unless a trade happens so then we should take brandon wright at the number three spot because he is better than spencer hawes. Hawes is 6'11 and wright is 6'10 not much difference and wright has a wingspan of 7'4 i no he's not center but if were goin to take a big man unless its oden i would like the hawks the to draft wright instead of Hawes then the point guard situation I would think aci law would be there alon with crittenton but i think the hawks would draft aci law. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!! PLease make playoffs next year year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
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Posted by: Jonj on May 26, 2007 5:37PM EST
SUN MINGMING
PEOPLe aRe we serious? Have you happened to see him play? No really go to you tube and watch a couple of videos. Does this guy really look like he could keep up with anyone on our team or any team in the NBA?
I mean i understand why you see potential; you probably are big fans of Shawn Bradley!
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Posted by: boricualexis on May 26, 2007 7:00PM EST
Mike Conley is not Chris Paul. #3 Pick is to high for an undersized and inexperienced point guard. The Hawks should take the best player available at the #3 spot and that is Brandon Wright, Yao Jr. or Al Hortford and then take Law or Conley with the 11 pick. If Law or Conley are not there at #11 then hopefully someone like Joaquim Noah will be. The Hawks need winners whether it is fowards, guard and centers. The only good center in the draft will be taken #1. Let's not waste a pick with Spencer Hawles ( Does anyone remember Adam Keefe & John Konkak). I would rather keep stocking up on Athletic big men than a Keefe and Konkak clone. I also like the idea of trading the #3 pick to Portland for Aldridge, Jack and or a 2nd rounder in this draft.
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Posted by: King of Marietta on May 26, 2007 7:02PM EST
Draft Conley at #3 and Hawes at #11. AS simple as that. Billy Knight can not worry about passing on the best player on the board. We already have a Horford in J-smoove. Bk always get the best player on the board but, not the greatest fit on the team. Don't choke and just get Conley and Hawes.
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Posted by: Phil on May 26, 2007 7:41PM EST
ok..scratch the last post i made about getting someone in a later round because i was informed that there are only 2 rounds anyway. i'd still try to package whatever to move up a spot or 2 even though it seems out of reach. seattle already has a player similar to Durant in Rashard Lewis. portland is already stacked with talent and doesn't have a "dire" of a need in Oden. the Hawks should at least ATTEMPT to trade up!
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Posted by: john on May 27, 2007 12:24AM EST
WE NEED TO TRADE DOWN BC THIS IS A DEEP DRAFT. WE COULD GET THREE SOLID PLAYERS OUT OF THIS DRAFT. HAWES, ACIE LAW, and NOAH WILL BE AVAILABLE LATER. THERE'S NO NEED TO GET CONLEY AND HAWES THIS EARLYY!!!
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Posted by: Michael on May 27, 2007 12:54AM EST
Dont get cute. Take Conley at #3 and Hawes at #11 and call it a day.
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Posted by: Jarvis on May 27, 2007 8:19AM EST
If we were to use our draft picks to try to fill our needs, this draft will only address one of the Hawks' needs. And that is the point guard position. Mike Conley Jr. is this years Cris Paul and/or Deron Williams. We would not want to pass on him for another 6'9'' or middle of the lineup type forward (like Yi, Brandon Wright, Horford, or Noah. We have enough of those guys. The draft is deep but the players that will be availble to pick at #11 won't make an impact and really won't address the remaining need of a big guy in the middle that has a defensive presence (like Hawes. Tiago Splitter). So even drafting Conley won't be enough. We should draft Conley, then trade him and the #11 pick to Portland for Lamarcus Aldrige and Jarret Jack. Aldrige is as close to a Dwight Howard or Amare Staudemire as anyone in the upcoming draft or the league for that matter. And Jarret Jack is a Chauncy Billups type point guard.
PG - Jarret Jack SG - Joe Johnson (All-Star) SF - Josh Smith (All-Star to be) PF - Shelden Williams C - Lamarcus Aldrige (NBA All-Rookie First Team)
Bench PG - T. Lue, Speedy Claxton SG - Josh Childress, Salim Stoudemire SF - Marvin Williams, Josh Childress PF - Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, Solomon Jones C - Zaza Pachulia, Solomon Jones, Lorenzen Wright
So even if we were thinking about passing on Conley, the best thing to do is to get Jack (who is better than any pg in the draft other than Conley) and Aldrige (who fits what we need and is better than any of the deep roster of forwards in the draft and especially any player that will be available to pick at #11.
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Posted by: Jaysal on May 27, 2007 10:13AM EST
I think we should draft Brandan Wright for our #3 pick and Aice Law for our #11 pick. Both of these guys are stars in the rising. If we did this we could be like the Detroit Pistons without Rasheed Wallace. This would help our offense and defense. We could get easy shots in the paint and we cpould ball out from anywhere else. Our tall guys would pose as a huge menace in defense and rebounds would be easy to snag. I say for next year's draft we look for the center and point guard we always need. We might find someone that can turn into a Kobe Bryant.
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Posted by: MH on May 27, 2007 10:57AM EST
Things could change once workouts start, but from what we know now, I think Jarvis is right on, although I think the trade would look more like this:
ATL gets Jack (back to the ATL), Aldridge, 2008 1st Rd pick
POR gets 3rd Pick/Conley Jr (teams with Oden), Childress (back to the west coast)
After that, the Hawks would be in a position to take bpa at 11 (Law, Noah, Crittenton)
I tend to think the line-up would look more like this: PG - Jarret Jack SG - Joe Johnson (All-Star) SF - Marvin Williams PF - Josh Smith (All-Star to be) C - Lamarcus Aldrige (NBA All-Rookie First Team)
I also think that: - one of the veteran PG's gets dealt (possibly included in the POR deal to make the money work) - Sheldon will be much more of a force next yr. He reminds me a bit of Boozer (came out of Duke and took a while to come into his own) - Marvin will finally get adjusted to the speed of the game next year and come into his own
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Posted by: Tim Smith on May 27, 2007 11:06AM EST
Pick Conley Jr. at number 3
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Posted by: jwk on May 27, 2007 12:09PM EST
bk this is what the hawks should do i agree with MH we should trade to portland but this is how it would work out ATL gets: randolph, adridge, jack, next year pick PORgets: 3rd pick, sheldon, AJ, possibly claxton with the 11th we could pick up noah, law ,or cittenton this could be our line up PG:jack SG:johnson SM:sm... the bench: PG:lue, law possibly or cittenton SG:childress,stouda... williams PF : williams, jones, noah possibly C: zaza, jones, wright our line up would have some good talent and maybe we try to trade the 11th to get a veteran or possibly a second rounder or a next year pick BK just keep your eyes open
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Posted by: jwk on May 27, 2007 1:21PM EST
BK WE SHOULD TRADE AWAY THE THIRD PICK TO PORTLAND. THE TRADE COULD REALLY HELP OUR TEAM AND COULD GET US IN THE PLAYOFFS. THE TRADE: ATL GETS:ALDRIDGE, RANDOLPH, JACK,AND A FIRST ROUND PICK NEXT YEAR POR GETS:3RD PICK, SHELDON, CLAXTON, AJ WITH THE 11TH PICK WE COULD EITHER TAKE LAW OR NOAHOR HAWES OR WE COULD LOOK TO PUT IT IN A DEAL MAYBE TO WASHINGTON AND SOME PLAYERS FOY GILBERT BUT THAT WILL PROBABLY NOT HAPPEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO AFTER ONE OF THE VETERAN PGs IN NEW YORK. ONE THING THAT I WOULD DO IS TAKE WRIGHT IF HE IS AVAILABLE AT 11, HE IS THE NEXT KG.
THE BALLERS:( JUST POR TRADE) PG: JACK SG: JOHNSON SF: SMITH PF: ALDRIDGE C: RANDOLPH
OFF THE BENCH: PG: LUE, POSSIBLY LAW SG:STOUDAMIRE, CHILDRESS SF: WILLIAMS, CHILDRESS PF: SONES, WILLIAMS, POSSIBLY NOAH/WRIGHT C: ZAZA, WRIGHT, POSSIBLY HAWES
THIS TEAM WITH THAT AMOUNT OF DEPTH HAS THE TALENT AND POTENTIAL TO GO ALL OF THE WAY.WE MIGHT WANT TO TRY TO TRADE A FOWARD TO A TEAM TO GET A SECOND ROUND PICK AND A VETERAN.
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